I use a tonal under coat of Gamblin’s FastMatte. I usually have a number of these done up in advance of a painting session. When I go out to paint I pick the board I want based on the color of the undercoat. I have had no problems with the slick surface of Gessobord since I’ve been doing that.
Thank you for the tip about the panelli panels. I use Ampersand Gessobord but would love to try these. They seem reasonably priced too.
You’re welcome! Let me know what you think. I love your “Ruffles and Seashells” piece! Children on the beach is my favorite theme.
I prefer a hard surface, but I also want some grab. With the Ampersand boards, synthetic brushes seem best, but with a textured surface, I like bristle brushes. I’m currently going back and forth, and I should also add that I’m a little cheap. What I think I would like is gator board with linen laminated onto it, or hardboard with linen. I’m not sure how laborious it would be to DIY. Does anyone have experience with that?
I use boards but you do not necessarily have to commit to permanent mounting before painting. Here is a video by Richard Robinson showing how to temporarily stretch canvas to paint on it. This could also assist with shipping by allowing you to ship rolled in a tube.
I usually purchase small boards like gessobord adding a layer of gesso if they are too slick. For slightly larger boards I make my own with hardboard sealed both sides with GAC100 then layers of gesso. For even larger, I cradle the hardboard using 3/4 inch plywood cut into 5/8 inch strips turned on their end and mitred around the edge of the back of the board.
Thanks for sharing that! I’m inspired to make a run to Home Depot and to order a roll of canvas
Thanks so much for attaching the video about stretching canvas Gary. Brilliant. I’ve been wondering about how to stretch canvas for shipping paintings in a tube. The only thing is, he doesn’t say how much space to allow along the edges if the painting will be mounted onto stretcher bars. But I guess that shouldn’t be too hard to work out.
It looks to me like he used about 1.25 inches all around a 16 x 16" canvas. I think this should probably be considered a minimum. If you planned to use thicker gallery wrap stretcher, you would probably need more. If you are unsure how much to allow, I would just get a cheap canvas from Michaels, take the canvas off and try it out first. You will need canvas stretcher pliers and a staple gun with rust resistant staples.
Here is info on stretching.
You can also glue your “keepers” onto a board.
The following involve heat-activated glues, which I assume would have to be used prior to painting. I cannot imagine ironing a painting.
Hi Gary thanks, yes I was thinking the same thing. The guy seemed to leave a bare minimum of extra canvas around the edges. I’d think you’d need at least a couple more inches than that, in which case you would need to have some fairly big boards to tape the canvas to (depending on the size of the painting). But I like that you can keep the canvas really flat throughout the process and not have to crease the edges by stretching over bars for painting.
I think this method would be most useful for mailing larger paintings, since mailing smaller paintings is straightforward enough.
It’s a useful process to keep in mind for large commissioned work that does need to be mailed. If I was selling locally though I’d stick to painting on boards or pre-stretched canvas.
Thanks for all the info.
Another question - for those of you who make canvas/linen panels, what kind of board do you use, and do you seal it first? If so, what do you use to seal it? Thanks!
I like having more time for painting, so I buy mine. They are pretty low cost.
Rolling an acrylic painting for shipping should be fine, but with oil you risk having it crack.
The type of boards used are hardboard, MDF, HDF, plywood, cardboard. Many artists seal the boards with 2 coats of Golden GAC 100 before the glue/acrylic gel and the canvas on top. Others use acrylic matte medium, then the glue/ gel and canvas. The glue is archival or the acrylic gloss gel medium from eg. Liquitex will do the job. The back and sides of the panel once covered with the canvas need to sealed as well. Matte medium, gesso can be used here. They videos posted by Gary above give most of the details and variations.
I have discovered the hard way (luckily with boards that were still with me) that if you do not seal the back of the board, it can warp at various times of year due to humidity. This is very noticable with larger boards. I personally think it looks better if the back is sealed with clear gesso or GAC100 rather than coloured gesso. I have used shellac to seal boards as well but I find GAC100 easier to use.
I am also curious how you would store while drying and before stretching a canvas that was painted while it was taped to a board. Would you have to leave it on the board for a few weeks or longer? BTW I saw a photo of Richard Schmid and it looked like he was paintting on a canvas taped to a board.
There is no issue for smaller paintings because it is easier to use boards, covered or not with linen or canvas and gesso. The reason, i am thinking about and researching this is that I would like to do more larger works but the ones I have already done cause a storrage problem in my small studio. Once you get to larger than 9 x 12 inches, the boards probably should be cradled and things start getting heavy and bulky.
You can also save some money and just seal and prime the panel. If you like the texture of canvas or linen A really cool way to prepare the panel is use a brush for the first coat or 2 then use a roller for the rest. It gives sort of a orange peel texture that make the paint easier to work with and obtain softer edges if wanted. For some reason it seems to work better on hardboard then the birch panels. Maybe birch just need more coats.
Thanks Joe. I may try this method.